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	<title>Comments on: Why Sonicbids sucks for indie artists</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.jimhodgson.com/2007/02/01/why-sonicbids-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-113669</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. Sonicbids does indeed suck. The incessant hand in ones pocket for the so-called gigs are just a way of promoters and Sonicbids flaying you of your coin. Save it and just get to know people in the business personally. Start locally, work out from there. It still is the only way. Put your music on YouTube, the &quot;international jukebox&quot; where it&#039;s got as good a chance as any of being heard. For all the progress that is the internet, the music industry is still very much a word of mouth game, if you want to play, there are no shortcuts around this.

Another place to avoid is MC-Input. They tout themselves as &quot;international music consultancy.&quot; Another waste of money right there. They&#039;re not going to do anything for you that you can&#039;t do for yourself. 
I purchased a package off them back in 2007 and I was told told my tunes were &quot;not ready&quot; and to &quot;go back and re-work them.&quot; I ignored the so-called &quot;expert advice&quot; and collaborated with an LA based producer who told me he mixed the tunes like they were his own because he liked them so much. 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. Sonicbids does indeed suck. The incessant hand in ones pocket for the so-called gigs are just a way of promoters and Sonicbids flaying you of your coin. Save it and just get to know people in the business personally. Start locally, work out from there. It still is the only way. Put your music on YouTube, the &#8220;international jukebox&#8221; where it&#8217;s got as good a chance as any of being heard. For all the progress that is the internet, the music industry is still very much a word of mouth game, if you want to play, there are no shortcuts around this.</p>
<p>Another place to avoid is MC-Input. They tout themselves as &#8220;international music consultancy.&#8221; Another waste of money right there. They&#8217;re not going to do anything for you that you can&#8217;t do for yourself.<br />
I purchased a package off them back in 2007 and I was told told my tunes were &#8220;not ready&#8221; and to &#8220;go back and re-work them.&#8221; I ignored the so-called &#8220;expert advice&#8221; and collaborated with an LA based producer who told me he mixed the tunes like they were his own because he liked them so much. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Promoter</title>
		<link>http://www.jimhodgson.com/2007/02/01/why-sonicbids-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-109838</link>
		<dc:creator>Promoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IJim,  

You are SOOoooo right about EVERYTHING you had to say.
Sonic Bids as well as ALL the other &quot;Musician&quot; sites are businesses, and are out to make money.  They told the truth about promoters coming to them and Live Nation and Reverb Nation..etc...   These all have the same platform.   You put your info on them and they sell you leads and sell you press kits, and sell you mailing lists, and so on.....
As an Indie, I can truely recommend a FREE service that works!    Though the popularity of MySpace has plummeted over the last few years, it has revamped itself with a new design for artists that is much more attractive and user friendly.  The biggest feature is that when you enter your info and music to set up your &quot;Page&quot;  you can then go to a &quot;widgets&quot; box and place n EPK on your FaceBook , Twitter, Reverbnation, etc....and you can make a digital copy of it easily to send out to promoters...this is FREE.   Furthermore, you can link MySpace, Reverbnation, Twitter, Yahoo, Facebook, and a few others, so that they all update your status and stuff at the same time.   I as a Promoter search ALL the sites for the right sounds to book, but most important to me when I have to make a choice between two or three bands is the one who is persistant in promoting themselves.   DON&#039;T PAY ANYONE A DIME!!!!  If they have to charge you, they are not worth your time playing.  If you truely have talent, NEVER give up, and never take no as the final answer.  Just keep submitting your EPK every week with different request parameters and/or songs.  Chances are what didn&#039;t move them this week won&#039;t next week, however, a new fresh approach or different song may catch their eyes and ears the next time....Best of luck to you and to all the artists out there holding it down...As Dick Clark always said...&quot;Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars&quot;......Promoter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IJim,  </p>
<p>You are SOOoooo right about EVERYTHING you had to say.<br />
Sonic Bids as well as ALL the other &#8220;Musician&#8221; sites are businesses, and are out to make money.  They told the truth about promoters coming to them and Live Nation and Reverb Nation..etc&#8230;   These all have the same platform.   You put your info on them and they sell you leads and sell you press kits, and sell you mailing lists, and so on&#8230;..<br />
As an Indie, I can truely recommend a FREE service that works!    Though the popularity of MySpace has plummeted over the last few years, it has revamped itself with a new design for artists that is much more attractive and user friendly.  The biggest feature is that when you enter your info and music to set up your &#8220;Page&#8221;  you can then go to a &#8220;widgets&#8221; box and place n EPK on your FaceBook , Twitter, Reverbnation, etc&#8230;.and you can make a digital copy of it easily to send out to promoters&#8230;this is FREE.   Furthermore, you can link MySpace, Reverbnation, Twitter, Yahoo, Facebook, and a few others, so that they all update your status and stuff at the same time.   I as a Promoter search ALL the sites for the right sounds to book, but most important to me when I have to make a choice between two or three bands is the one who is persistant in promoting themselves.   DON&#8217;T PAY ANYONE A DIME!!!!  If they have to charge you, they are not worth your time playing.  If you truely have talent, NEVER give up, and never take no as the final answer.  Just keep submitting your EPK every week with different request parameters and/or songs.  Chances are what didn&#8217;t move them this week won&#8217;t next week, however, a new fresh approach or different song may catch their eyes and ears the next time&#8230;.Best of luck to you and to all the artists out there holding it down&#8230;As Dick Clark always said&#8230;&#8221;Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;Promoter</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://www.jimhodgson.com/2007/02/01/why-sonicbids-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-109363</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s *relationship, sorry for the typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s *relationship, sorry for the typo.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was on a website called moviesongvault.com, it said for priority consideration submit my music through sonicbids.com. However when I reviewed sonicbids.com I found no connection or relatnship at all with moviesongvault.com at all. Does anyone know anything about this relationship at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was on a website called moviesongvault.com, it said for priority consideration submit my music through sonicbids.com. However when I reviewed sonicbids.com I found no connection or relatnship at all with moviesongvault.com at all. Does anyone know anything about this relationship at all?</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe every word you say, Mr. fake name and fake email address.</description>
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		<title>By: Boss</title>
		<link>http://www.jimhodgson.com/2007/02/01/why-sonicbids-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-108986</link>
		<dc:creator>Boss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 03:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll remember your name Jim, and remember not to book you on my shows, festivals or opportunities inside and outside of SonicBids or otherwise.  Funny, in 4 years, one can go from small booker to the head of Live Nation.  No one likes a complainer or rotten apple who&#039;s ideas lack foundation or facts.  From reading, you seem to be using the service improperly OR you just have a poor product. Either way.... good luck.  It&#039;s a small industry....mind your P&#039;s and Q&#039;s.  The hand you bite might just be the ones calling the shots later on in your career.  It&#039;s been a while since your post, I hope you&#039;ve found more &quot;diplomacy&quot; since them. - RocknRoll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll remember your name Jim, and remember not to book you on my shows, festivals or opportunities inside and outside of SonicBids or otherwise.  Funny, in 4 years, one can go from small booker to the head of Live Nation.  No one likes a complainer or rotten apple who&#8217;s ideas lack foundation or facts.  From reading, you seem to be using the service improperly OR you just have a poor product. Either way&#8230;. good luck.  It&#8217;s a small industry&#8230;.mind your P&#8217;s and Q&#8217;s.  The hand you bite might just be the ones calling the shots later on in your career.  It&#8217;s been a while since your post, I hope you&#8217;ve found more &#8220;diplomacy&#8221; since them. &#8211; RocknRoll</p>
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		<title>By: HoodGoodGoodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>HoodGoodGoodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow .....truthfully I have just booked my 10th gig thru SonicBids. Probably once or twice I have paid for a submission and the promoter did not respond, but overall before Sonicbids.... I was booking nothing!! Have had a lot of rejection, you just have to be persistent:)) Good Luck TO all the INDIES out there. Keep Faith &amp; Keep Working Hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8230;..truthfully I have just booked my 10th gig thru SonicBids. Probably once or twice I have paid for a submission and the promoter did not respond, but overall before Sonicbids&#8230;. I was booking nothing!! Have had a lot of rejection, you just have to be persistent:)) Good Luck TO all the INDIES out there. Keep Faith &amp; Keep Working Hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.jimhodgson.com/2007/02/01/why-sonicbids-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-107587</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try reverbnation. Its free and it works. A venue contacted me through there. Thats a first. Yes hard work and face to face is best, but gigging is ultimate. I take that back, It&#039;s who you know is ultimate. Dont give up man! Shove your music down the world&#039;s throats! -Christopher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try reverbnation. Its free and it works. A venue contacted me through there. Thats a first. Yes hard work and face to face is best, but gigging is ultimate. I take that back, It&#8217;s who you know is ultimate. Dont give up man! Shove your music down the world&#8217;s throats! -Christopher</p>
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		<title>By: Rose Cora Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.jimhodgson.com/2007/02/01/why-sonicbids-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-106611</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose Cora Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TRUTH about Sonicbids:
http://www.fsu.ca/interrobang_article.asp?storyID=6757&amp;sectionID=2&amp;issueID=168</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TRUTH about Sonicbids:<br />
<a href="http://www.fsu.ca/interrobang_article.asp?storyID=6757&#038;sectionID=2&#038;issueID=168" rel="nofollow">http://www.fsu.ca/interrobang_article.asp?storyID=6757&#038;sectionID=2&#038;issueID=168</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Dynisty</title>
		<link>http://www.jimhodgson.com/2007/02/01/why-sonicbids-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-106560</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Dynisty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read through the blogs above and I have the same concerns. I&#039;ve been with sonicbids for over a year and never got a gig through them. Sending out the EPK is the only useful tool I found on the website, but there are other websites more specific to the type of performer, gigs or music to use for that service.

The main complaint I have with sonicbids is that is seems to be more geared up to helping bands. I am an entertainer and a good one at that, but sonicbids, whether its fake or not, cater to bands in a nutshell. So as an entertainer I got no where there. Myspace, I don&#039;t even use that anymore so how can one determine if I can bring a crowd from that, its a joke.

I&#039;ve let my account lapse with sonicbids and I truly don&#039;t see the value in renewing! As was mentioned above there&#039;s no better way than the good old fashioned getting out there and networking with individuals in your field. Although I&#039;m still looking for that one person that will believe in me, I still feel like I get closer the old fashion way than anything on this internet. Can you tell I&#039;m disgusted.!!! That&#039;s because I get so excited whenever I find a site that I think will help me reach out to more people only to find out they&#039;re like the real sharks that are out here in the real world, only the internet sharks take smaller bites at a time, over time that adds up too.

Good luck all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through the blogs above and I have the same concerns. I&#8217;ve been with sonicbids for over a year and never got a gig through them. Sending out the EPK is the only useful tool I found on the website, but there are other websites more specific to the type of performer, gigs or music to use for that service.</p>
<p>The main complaint I have with sonicbids is that is seems to be more geared up to helping bands. I am an entertainer and a good one at that, but sonicbids, whether its fake or not, cater to bands in a nutshell. So as an entertainer I got no where there. Myspace, I don&#8217;t even use that anymore so how can one determine if I can bring a crowd from that, its a joke.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve let my account lapse with sonicbids and I truly don&#8217;t see the value in renewing! As was mentioned above there&#8217;s no better way than the good old fashioned getting out there and networking with individuals in your field. Although I&#8217;m still looking for that one person that will believe in me, I still feel like I get closer the old fashion way than anything on this internet. Can you tell I&#8217;m disgusted.!!! That&#8217;s because I get so excited whenever I find a site that I think will help me reach out to more people only to find out they&#8217;re like the real sharks that are out here in the real world, only the internet sharks take smaller bites at a time, over time that adds up too.</p>
<p>Good luck all</p>
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